Facebook: A Decision But Not a Solution

why block it at 11pm during the week and untill midnight on the weekend. what about people who stay up and wanna talk to there friends after thos hours at like midnight during the school week? just leave it the way is was from the start. blocked from 8:00-3:00. everyone will be happy then

Why is Facebook only being allowed at the time that most kids are supposed to be doing homework? This seems absolutely ridiculous to me. And why are we attempting to fix something that really isn't broken? I think banning it during school hours is appropriate, but that's enough. Also, I think if a kid spends the entire night on Facebook instead of doing homework, he's probably capable of doing the same on some other site all evening. And on top of that probably has a greater issue behind his lack of motivation. So are you just going to block everything that could be seen as a potential distraction?
You should let us learn for ourselves how to deal with our own distractions. Everybody is equally responsible for their own actions, and you shouldn't be held accountable for a kid who chooses not to do his homework.

Well i cant say i agree with the decision but i guess that's whats going to happen when everyone complains, those who had a problem with the old way should have found some other source to keep them accountable (like oneself) instead they gone and screwed it up for those who had no problem, They all got someone else to fix their problems for them, sorry if i offend anyone here, but this needs to be said. I think there are a lot of kids who just need to grow up and take responsibility and accountability for there own problems. Seriously!

also why is facebook blocked at 11pm on a friday night. its the start of the weekend

And one more thing... Why is Facebook blocked from 5-7? Has it really stopped people from eating?

Yeah, the 5-7 thing is really beyond me. I'm mostly just curious as to the origin of those times. So if anyone can clue me in?
But, in general I have to say Mackenzie, yes people need to grow up and take responsibility, but blocking off facebook isn't helping them do that, it's just babying them. Facebook addiction is just the symptom and to be honest, it isn't always an addiction. It's not like facebook is a drug or anything and everyone who goes on it has issues with time management. And blocking facebook isn't going to help anything when it comes to the actually problems students are facing.

Well, on second thought, I think the school should just block it. It's almost summer anyway and I dont know about the rest of the school, but I have a social life outside of my computer. (shocking! i know)

And to all you people who are saying: "We need to learn responsibility" I think we both know that the majority of you would probably end up living in your parents basement with no accomplishments in life other than having a million "friends" on facebook, who you barely know. I mean come on, your in high school, you dont know the meaning of the word "responsibility". My little sister feeds my mom that same bull crap, and she spends every minute on facebook from the moment she comes home from school till the moment she is forced to go to bed. What do you think would happen if we got rid of the drinking age? I mean we all say we would be "responsible", but if they actually did get rid of it, we would all die of alcohol poisoning in the first day. And by "we" I actually mean "you". Because I am above that.
If you all had the slightest idea how to manage your time, you would be doing something productive, rather than reading this ridiculously long post. The thing that I find most amusing about all this, is that I know when I'm finished typing this, all of you are going waste even more of your time trying to type out a come back to all of this, and I am going to sit here and laugh at you. All you can do is sit there and piss and moan about facebook, or -attempt- to shove me into a locker at school or something. Which I can put up with, because in 15 years, you'll be the ones cleaning the dirt out of the rims on my Lamborghini.

I applaud your overly elaborate post, however ineffective at persuasive argument it may have been.

Jakes got a point. People are obsessed, just block it for good this is getting annoying. Just block it and be done with it... we wont be listened to.

Everyone needs to screw facebook and get a life. Oh and the thing about it being blocked from 5-7, if you cant stay off of facebook for just two hours you need to step back and seriously rethink your priorities. Facebook has become a "necessity" and it truly is sickening that people are getting so angry about something so lame. I dont think there should be problem with the school blocking facebook. They bought and own these laptops NOT YOU! How about this, if you want facebook on your laptop then you should just buy it from the school. Everyone needs to stop making this a bigger deal than it is.

jake . wow. thats a big post. but i do agree with you. my brother does the same thing, and its kinda annoying. phil has an interesting idea, however i do like it , but think that it wouldn't go over very well with the other tech guys like peterson and hoekstra. when a school gets computers, they have to agree that they will do everything in there power to "protect us from the big bad internet". so as much as I like your idea, I don't think that its a plausible. When i was a freshman, i asked for a guest pass for my other laptop, and was told that i couldn't get one because my computer was not owned by the school so it could have a virus and to hook it up to the server was going to be a difficult task. so , with that in mind, i suggest using your own computer at home.

this is stupid let people make there own decisions for once

I think the school should give us all a free copy of Pro Tools 8 and make a class that teaches Music production and recording. That would be much more entertaining AND productive than facebook!

I was talking about this with a pair of people after school the other day, and one of them brought up an interesting point. When you go to work and receive a work phone, do you complain that you can't use it for personal calls? No, the phone belongs to your workplace. In the same way, our school laptops are owned by the school and to be used for our job, being a student.

Even without that reasoning, I feel like I now agree with the new hours, although the 5-7 ban still puts me at a loss. But, speaking from my own experience, I can say that many times my homework has taken longer b/c I was on facebook, or I stayed up much later than I should have b/c of facebook. In a way, banning facebook is babying us. However, the vast majority of students at HC are NOT AT ALL ready for the responsibility of having a site like facebook open to them 24/7. And, b/c of the system they all have in place, we must all be set with the lowest common denominator. To state it simply, although we would like the freedom to make our own choices, most of us simply aren't ready for that, and when someone isn't ready to do something on their own, a higher authority must step in to help them, lest they ultimately fail.

well said matt! just for that, you get to have a ride in my Lamborghini!

I'm siding with Jake! That means a free lambo ride, right??

People will get over it, they have their own computers at home to use facebook on.

ok ya i agree with you Christian but not all of us are rich and have more than one computer at home ok. Not everyone is as perfect as you. I like facebook because i can talk to friends when i am bored and usually i make a plan to hang out somwhere. And a lot of the times i can't get a hold of my Friend.... AHEM THAT MEANS YOU TO My LEFT HAHAH>>> ok nvm that but ya i think facebook is a soulution to bordom. AND in the near future that might be all we do is face book ok so just suckit up for a few more years and deal with it. Facebook is here to stay.. It will never leave no matter how much it is blocked.

I am going to say that I'm actually offended by this whole FB blocking deal.
Really? We're in high school. I think we should be allowed to manage our own time. HC can't hold our hands forever, and maybe middle schoolers, etc need this, but I'd like to think that we're viewed as more mature than that. And if some students can't handle it and want to waste their time on FB, let them. They'll learn eventually. But really, this isn't a solution, its denying the inevitable. If FB is totally blocked, we'll either go on our computers at home, or we'll find another way to procrastinate. I'm all for having it blocked during school, but that's it. School demands our attention for 8 hours during the day, plus homework at night. Give us a break and let us choose how we spend our time outside of school.

You only need one computer at home to check your facebook. And don't forget the fact that you're able to see them on a fairly daily basis, so set up plans then. And, with the magical invention of the telephone, give them a call. If life ever gets impersonal enough that all we ever use is facebook, I'll eat my eyes.

Michael I think you missed the point by a long shot. The point is is that FB is not a necessity, youre post just proves that people are addicted. I like FB alot. I use it for communication and it is a good time killer. The point that jake and christian made is that there are a thousand better things you can do with your time. We don't hate FB we just think that its become an addiction and if HC wants to block it on computers THAT THEY OWN! There should be no problem. Alot of people act like they have some kind of right to go on FB on these computers that they dont own and havent paid for. I dont care about the reasoning why to take it away, what upsets me is that so many of you people are freaking out just b/c they think theyre going to loose their precious FB privileges. Give me break! How about we socialize in mysterious and wonderful ways, like talking face to face or hanging out. PLEASE! give us a break!

Yeah, listen to Phil. Instead of stalking your wish-you-had-girlfriend's pictures from spring break, you could be levelling your Night Elf Druid and exploring the lands of Azeroth!

Jake, you better read that. And Phil, where the eff were you in ethnic lit??

Jake, Matt and Phil all made great points, I would bet that the majority of us wouldn't use any sort of responsibility we might happen to have to moderate the time spent on facebook. The laptops were given to us as tools to use to further our EDUCATION, not to satisfy our pathetic and mindless internet browsing activities that are pointless and only hurt you in the long run. You should be thrilled that you have the privilege of being able to have a laptop and even get on facebook or any other site. If we didn't have these tools of education, none of the complainers would be complaining and everything would be solved. So let's be thankful that we have them and stop being stupid complainers. Get a life. Quit facebook.

Micheal: this is why we have phones, to call people to make plans. Facebook isn't the only way to connect with people, and if you think it is, then you should re-think your social life.

wow, world of warcraft is sooooooo stupid! its even more lame than being addicted to FB! (Sorry Jake) And chris I'LL TALK TO YOU----> FACE TO FACE<----- TOMOROW!(i know it's hard for some to understand)

But Phil, we have facebook! We have no need for the time consumer that is actual interactivity with other human beings.

But Chris remember that if you want to go anywhere in life you should have at least some social skills.

Yeah, because interacting with fake characters on World of Warcraft is a lot more rewarding than interacting with real people. The simple fact of the matter is this: people like doing different things, things that other people might think is a waste of time. I don't understand why people watch television, and yet they do. I think its a waste of time, but its really not my problem. Same with Facebook. Some people don't use it, or think its a waste of time, but one cannot logically make the jump from thinking that Facebook is a waste of time to thinking it should be blocked. Also, getting a job cleaning Lamborghini's (if that even is a job) is in no way correlated to Facebook use, though pretentiousness and the desire to block Facebook does seem to have a strong, positive, linear correlation (r = .95).

W.O.W sucks.......

This kid knows what he's talking about ^^

I never said I wanted them block facebook, and facebook in itself is not a waste of time. All of you seem to think that you have some sort of miss placed sense of entitlement to the schools laptops; which, by the way, you don't pay for. Your parents pay for your tuition and the laptops, and I'm pretty sure they have your education in mind when they pay the bills, rather than your entertainment. You all sit there talking about responsibility, and how the school doesnt have the right to block facebook; well we wouldn't be having this issue if the majority of you were responsible with the laptops that were given to you.
And Erik, getting a poor job may not be directly correlated with facebook, but it is definitely correlated with how you invest your time.

All i see here is a total of 5 people arguing, hardly the number of people who have facebook. Just let the tech people decide thats what its going to come down to, thats how it will happen.

oh yeah? well the tech people love me more :P

I stand just astounded.

Even if earlier on in the blog you dint agree with what Jake had to say in his original post, every one of you have proven at least one of the points me made to be completely true.

"...The thing that I find most amusing about all this, is that I know when I'm finished typing this, all of you are going waste even more of your time trying to type out a come back to all of this..."

This seems to have strayed so far from the matter of Facebook, and has morphed into a battle of ethics and fine lines. I would say is that there are obviously two sides to all of this, should the school get control or should the students, but its most likely that those going on about something else or staying on the topic but in a disrespectful way, probably won't end up with that strong of a voice to Mr. Kamps, Mr, Peterson, or to the first time poster. If there anything like me, they'll get tired of all the babble and semantics, and this tool will be doing no service to your goal (take a note from John Stewart).

Not to be hippocratic, but sorry for those confusing typos :)

If it were a matter of control, the school would ultimately have it, seeing how the laptops were supposed to be for educational use and they are the ones who own them.

Wow.. I cannot believe you guys are obsessing over this facebook issue, its stupid no one cares about some worthless website that all you do is talk to your friends on, if you only talk to your friends on facebook, maybe their not your friends... Yeah thats right, maybe you don't have any friends? And if you are worrying about being on facebook after 11pm or midnight on weekends (Nathan Schierbeek) seriously? You should be sleeping then... like really whats so important at 11pm on a weekday??? OH MY GOSH I have to get on to talk to my "girl friend" at 11pm on a school night. Maybe talk to her in real life? Cuz I am pretty sure a facebook relationship is not the answer.

I just have a few comments to throw into the mix. First off, several people have commented to that fact that, "if HC wants to block it on computers THAT THEY OWN! There should be no problem." Too many people adopt this idea. As a result they treat their computers like absolute crap. They are cracked, breaking, tossed about, with broken screens and bad cd drives. Don't you understand that we payed around $160 to get a laptop? We have a stake in these wonderful machines yet we act like they are school books meant to be ripped and doodled over. Also does the fact that we pay for repairs not change anybodies mindset? Secondly, I believe that people are the answer. I believe that when we have problems we can figure out a way to solve them. Sadly many people suffer with time management, so blocking facebook during school hours was frankly a fabulous idea. I'm disappointed that it has had to come to blocking facebook most of the free day, but sometimes it has to happen. Lastly, I don't believe that facebook is evil. Facebook, email, chats are how we have learned to communicate as the technologically savvy generation. Just like our parents used to talk to each other on the phone for hours, and our grandparents slaved over letters to write to each other. Though we definitely need social skills, like speaking face to face, there is nothing inherently bad about computer communication. In conclusion, I want everyone to appreciate and protect their laptops, I want the tech crew to know that facebook can be a good thing... and bad. I hope that this ban can be lifted eventually - and by that time people will know better to time-manage so it will no longer be a factor.

im sorry but i think that blocking facebook at certain times outside of school is pretty rediculous. if parents are really that concerned with their kids being on facebook too much or whatever they should take it into their own hands, its their kids. i mean it seems kind of pointless to block it at certain times because i could just go on my home computer and be on facebook all night too so yeah... also im 18 years old and i dont really think that i should have to be told by school while im at home when i am or am not allowed to be on facebook...

facebook should NOT be blocked friday nights at 11. because probably 99% of the student body is still awake past then. I think its really stupid because what else are we supposed to do? this whole this is just lame.

I really hope that I speak for at least 99% of the student body when I say that there are about a million things I'd rather do than sit on FB even after 11 on friday........maybe thats just me, If it is Im fine with that.

Bless you for blocking Facebook from 5pm to 7pm! For hours I would be locked up in my room, perusing other facebook profiles and obsessing over my thousands of applications. I simply couldn't stop. My mother and father would bang on my door for long periods of time and attempt to coax me down to my dinner, but I would not hear their cries. I had to have my facebook fix. I got so thin and weak, that I could barely press the space key without using both of my thumbs. I was surely on the way to my death bed. But then, a blessing from the heavens came! My facebook vice would be broken for that two hour period from 5pm to 7pm, enough to prod me down and gain some sustenance! I am no longer wasting away, and you have pushed my unhealthy addiction to facebook to reasonable hours. I no longer deny myself food for more facebook time. Thank you, my dear angels from above.

So what's the deal, you guys have a solution or will I be forced to have dinner with my family? I just want a decision so my moodle page is free of this pointless posting.

I just think that blocking facebook after school is not going to change anything, So we have to wait for an hour to get our "fix", what's that going to do?

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ok their is no point, block that I am just going to stay up late doing other stuff like games or tv and look what time it is 12:07 am